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TERMS OF USE
"We may monitor your communications..."
3. Monitoring and Disclosure
We may monitor your communications and may disclose content and information about you, including contents of communications, if we deem it reasonably necessary to: (1) conform to legal requirements or respond to legal process; (2) ensure your compliance with this Service Agreement including maintaining this Service and the Code of Conduct; or (3) protect the rights, property, personal safety or interests of Tribe, its employees, its customers, or the public.
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Were it not for that clause, Tribe.net would be violating the Stored Communications protection under federal law, which carries a $1,000 statutory civil damage per occurance and which is also a felony.
But since the Terms of Use say they can monitor your communications, it is no big deal. Or at least they think so. The clause gives them almost unlimited discretion.
Now here is the question I have, which they will only address by deleting this thread and unsubscribing me.
How often do they do this, and can any Tribe.net employee do it at any time, on a whim, or just to spy on people he doesn't like? Is there any internal guideline or constraint in place? What is stopping tribe.net employees from reading your emails? They have the power to do so, what makes you think they are not?
"We may monitor your communications..."
3. Monitoring and Disclosure
We may monitor your communications and may disclose content and information about you, including contents of communications, if we deem it reasonably necessary to: (1) conform to legal requirements or respond to legal process; (2) ensure your compliance with this Service Agreement including maintaining this Service and the Code of Conduct; or (3) protect the rights, property, personal safety or interests of Tribe, its employees, its customers, or the public.
***
Were it not for that clause, Tribe.net would be violating the Stored Communications protection under federal law, which carries a $1,000 statutory civil damage per occurance and which is also a felony.
But since the Terms of Use say they can monitor your communications, it is no big deal. Or at least they think so. The clause gives them almost unlimited discretion.
Now here is the question I have, which they will only address by deleting this thread and unsubscribing me.
How often do they do this, and can any Tribe.net employee do it at any time, on a whim, or just to spy on people he doesn't like? Is there any internal guideline or constraint in place? What is stopping tribe.net employees from reading your emails? They have the power to do so, what makes you think they are not?
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Re: who is reading your personal messages on Tribe?
Fri, May 4, 2007 - 5:13 AMI believe you are approaching this the wrong way.
Over fifteen years ago, a friend of mine and I had a discussion on the topic of electronic communications and encryption. Ultimately, the conclusion that we drew was that you should never put anything into email or on a BBS without using encryption, that you wouldn't share with a law officer.
Don't put it up here if it doesn't meet that test.
Further, if you treat every web site as private property, and behave as a guest, you will be much better off. -
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Re: who is reading your personal messages on Tribe?
Fri, May 4, 2007 - 6:36 AMThis is most certainly true. I think it is time to a second Internet. Not the one that the gov. is working on which will have weak encryption but a private one with strong pgp encryption for all packets. -
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Re: who is reading your personal messages on Tribe?
Fri, May 4, 2007 - 8:36 AMIt would appear that a guest has been shown the door. -
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Re: who is reading your personal messages on Tribe?
Wed, May 23, 2007 - 11:41 AMBut what about quantum computing? Eventually all encryption will be broken, so anything that has been posted can be read. Then someday we'll have devices that through quantum tunneling we can view anything that happens or has ever happened back in time. Someday there will be know secrets.
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